[argonaut]

The fact that they had a specific team test their security is already evidence they aren't clueless.

Clueless would be refusing to have teams test your security.

[rando289]

I didn't say they were clueless. I said their pr is clueless. Some pr person said "there is no risk" relating to it security of a large organization. That is obviously false, and clueless.

[late2part]

Two kinds of people - those who've been hacked and those who say they haven't.