[user_rob]

I am not quite 96 yet, but what nonsense - the British fought for freedom, self determination and democracy and not to be governed by a European state. NATO has provided the only effective security not the EU. Only France and the UK spend enough on defence. The EU is a slow lumbering giant full of indecision and differences as weak as its weakest member state. It is blighted by the misguided goal of political union. The UK leaving the EU will ultimately give confidence to the other EU member states to recognise political union for the nonsense and danger that it is. The UK electing not to be governed by the EU will help the UK to be more confident, act more decisively and be more effective globally. And finally if the UK does leave it can stop whining about the EU, which will make everyone here a bit happier.