[kylec]

Yeah, I don't think that all that junk added to Messages would have been added under Steve Jobs. Not that I think that's a bad thing, but it's definitely a notable departure away from clean and simple and minimal to something that is much, much more complicated and glitzy.

[batmanthehorse]

How much total keynote time was spent covering Mail templates during the Jobs era? (Too much). He liked dumb and friendly features as much as anyone.

[k-mcgrady]

Considering the number of people that use other messaging apps these features are what people want. Apple can't just ignore that.

[kylec]

Why not leave these things to third party messaging apps, keyboards, and integrations? Why does it all have to be first party?

[k-mcgrady]

Why build a first party messaging app if most people aren't going to use it? For people who just want to send plain text messages the UI is pretty much identical. Text box, type, send.

[kylec]

What if I want to receive plain text messages?

[sotojuan]

Turn off iMessage or tell your friends. Or get over it because it's just a silly message?

[k-mcgrady]

Use email instead. Or turn off iMessage and just use SMS.

[pauldcox]

In that case, I think I still have an old Motorola Razr lying around in a drawer somewhere you can have...

[rarepostinlurkr]

Did you miss the part where they indicated that Messages was the most used app on iOS? Why would they abandon that experience for their customers and leave it up to a 3rd party to control?

[yoz-y]

He signed off on the reel to reel tape deck podcast app though. I don't blame him. I liked it.