[EGreg]

I used to do a lot of this in real life. Not to say these aren't bots, but I seem to have discovered unconventional strategies in Chess and Poker due to never having had formal training - and I want to describe the rationale. They would work as effectively in real life as these bots did online:

When I had, say, suited connectors, I'd often reraise preflop (in late position). Why? So people would put me on a high hand. Since I was in late position, they'd be afraid to bet the flop, letting me see more cards cheaper than if I had not reraised preflop (the preflop betting usually isn't super large). By the time the turn arrives, I'd know if I had a pretty good chance to make a flush or straight on the river (or may have already done so).

Meanwhile, they still had me on high cards from the preflop raise so I represented it as such. If high cards came out on the flop and everyone was timid I could steal the pot by making a large bet bluffing that I had made a set with high cards and slowplayed the flop (that's how "confident" I was of my hand on the flop). If a high card came out on the turn I could also steal the pot by the even more believable story of preflop reraise followed by checking the flop and then "hitting" the right high cards on the turn.

But the biggest payoff would be when low cards came out and I would check, checkraise. Since I was late position, and representing high cards that didn't hit, I had people betting medium amounts on the flop to push me out. Often I'd be one card away from a flush or straight and just call them, "as if" waiting for a high card. If the turn completed my draw then I was all set for a call on the turn followed by a checkraise on the river.

In early position, I would definitely avoid raising with suited connectors because I wanted the maximum number of people in the hand, many with high cards, to suck out a large pot. Calling passively and checkraising the river. This last strategy netted me the most money. Also made people think I'm a lucky fish for giving them such a "bad beat"... but it was all in the stats involved in having a lot of people in the hand.

[xivzgrev]

It makes sense but did you engage in these strategies as frequently as the oc said he observed them? Like you said there were preconditions you needed eg suited connectors. That doesnt sound as likely to me as what oc commented on.

So these may have been bots designed by watching for patterns, seeing a few people like you do them, try them out, see success, push the envelope, and see even more success.

[EGreg]

Sure why not. I am surprised why poker bots aren't better considering they can try different strategies over a huge number of hands. I was just saying that sometimes preflop reraising makes a lot of sense. The AlohaGo program made some awesome moves that challenge traditional theory. And so forth. That is what I was getting at. Not that they aren't bots.