[shoemai]

I think this is a popular opinion that's just not realistic. There is a >0% of the population (much greater IMO) that is more productive learning in a structured environment. For those people there is an amount >0$ that they would be willing to pay for that structured environment. To say otherwise is basically just a glib, "Well I did it so why can't you?"

[hoodoof]

There is no "structured environment" when you get a job in programming. You are given goals and you need to get the result through learning and problem solving and just trying to make the damn thing work.

If the only context in which a person is capable of operating is one in which they are "taught" then they aren't suited to programming.

You have to do it on your own eventually so many as well get started on the task of becoming good at that.