[justinsaccount]

> The systemd supporters are soon going to take away the ability to run pretty much all background processes (including using "&" in a shell) by killing those processes when your X session logs out.

Really? That is your takeaway from the recent changes?

What actually happened was that systemd developers changed the default setting (from off to on) for an optional feature in logind that has existed for 5 years.

This setting was promptly reverted back to off by default in Debian, and probably most distributions that are shipping a bleeding edge version of systemd.

No one is taking away anything from anyone, which unfortunately includes your ability to spread FUD about things that you don't understand.

[gnuvince]

> That is your takeaway from the recent changes?

My takeaway from that change was that (1) the systemd team was perfectly willing to break userspace (existing programs, scripts, and even habits), and (2) that they wanted to put the onus of dealing with their decisions on third parties (e.g., the Github issue for tmux).