[trhway]

i wish some trial lawyers found an opportunity here for a class action against MS. Couple weeks ago one of our laptops became Win 10. May be it is better than Win 8.1, yet i still would have wanted to be a part of that decision :)

[zanny]

I'd personally see people just stop using Windows. The more people using Linux, the more money in the market for Wine to get better and better replace all the Windows APIs for everyones "I cannot use Linux because X program is Windows only" software.

I mean, I'm already playing Skyrim natively on an AMD GPU thanks to Gallium Nine. And that is only because there has been a lot of internal pressure in the community to have the best Windows only games running here. The more people we get to switch, the more market for businesses to make the process of switching easier.

Of course, we still need Ubuntu (or SteamOS) computers in stores. That would be a nice start. It is hard to get people to switch when they need someone with technical know-how to violate their warranties and give them no commercial support unless you have a small business IT shop like what I run in the evenings that will do it.

[curiousgal]

Ever since I could run 1Password using Wine with full browser integration, I've completely turned my back to Windows.

[harikb]

Oh it does? I am trying it today! I wouldn't believe browser integration until I try it...

[curiousgal]

https://www.grc.com/never10.htm

[dghughes]

>Never10 does NOT prevent the installation of Windows updates, including the infamous Get Windows 10 (GWX) update KB3035583. Never10 simply employs Microsoft's documented and sanctioned configuration settings to instruct it NOT to change the installed version of Windows.

That would not have helped in this situation OP stated what hurt them was the huge amount bandwidth (6GB) used on an account where they pay per MB.

[Veratyr]

What it actually does [0] is set group policy according to the Microsoft specified methods [1]. It would have helped in this situation as not only would Windows not have downloaded the update in the first place, it would have deleted it had it already been somehow downloaded.

[0]: https://www.grc.com/never10/details.htm

[1]: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3080351

[trhway]

exactly - either forced upgrade or downloading and running some utility from a site/company i see for the first time and have never heard about :)

[morganvachon]

Steve Gibson is one of the most trusted developers of the past few decades. His SpinRite software is a life saver.

Please read about him before dismissing him out of hand because you've not heard of him. There's more to the world than what's inside your box.

[TillE]

Steve Gibson is a little strange, but he's trustworthy.

[xufi]

Yep, I have to say the second I heard about GRC and discovered the software he made such as SpinRIte for HDD"s I was hooked

[curiousgal]

You can check the technical details https://www.grc.com/never10/details.htm

It basically does what Microsoft would do in order to keep Windows from upgrading.