[evincarofautumn]

If you want to grow pickles, it’s right to ask for cucumber seeds, even though a cucumber is not a pickle.

[icc97]

There's a mighty large Ali sized difference between pickles vs cucumbers and slave name vs ancestor name.

[evincarofautumn]

What I mean is that the only known way to produce a Muhammad Ali is to start with a Cassius Clay, even though there is an important distinction between them.