[ryanSrich]

I honestly never understood the notion of not naming a number first (that is if you know what you're worth). Take the number you want to make, add 15%, and they'll likely negotiate down to the actual number you want. It's really not that hard.

Take this as an example:

Say you currently make $80k and you want a 10% bump. So you're looking for $88k. Take that number and add 15%. Your ask is now around $100k. They may say something like "we actually start all new engineers off at a base salary of $85,000". This gives you a ton of power in negotiating just a $3k bump. If you had said you wanted $88k, that "starting salary" would have likely been $75k. Thus making it a pretty big leap to the $88k you wanted.

[tamana]

Your example numbers show how you lastly underestimate what tech jobs pay, and you are inviting an employer to low ball and you won't even know

[sciurus]

No, that would be a decent salary for early to mid career tech workers outside the bay area.

[Spooky23]

Not everyone works at Google. The average salary of my team of about 25 software and Senior IT people is around $90k. Other compensation is about 40% of salary.

[ryanSrich]

The numbers I used are salary only. Total comp negotiation is an entirely other animal.

[vehementi]

The rationale (which I don't agree with) is "what if their range is a lot higher than your guess? Then you're losing out!"

[deanCommie]

That's what things like Glassdoor are for

[what_ever]

Glassdoor data is often not good indicator as you can filter by only recent reports. So some numbers can be older than 5 years.