[green_lunch]

"We do not allow individuals to negotiate their salary separately from their position. If you have the same position, you make the same salary."

This is great from a company perspective, but it essentially allows a company to get an employee at a much cheaper rate. Employees with more experience will get the same pay rate for the same job as someone with potentially much less.

Since all companies don't do this, I probably wouldn't ever work for your company knowing this is your policy. I bring much more value to a company with all of the experience and knowledge that I've gained.

At my last 9-5 job, I was able to get paid almost 20% more than many of my co-workers because of my negotiating skills and experience.

I just have to shake my head when I see so many people fighting for less power, rights, and inevitably less money and calling it a 'win'.

But, this doesn't really matter to me anymore. I've owned my own company for the last 5 years and don't need to negotiate my own salary.

[hyperpape]

Don't companies that try that sort of thing usually have well defined bands? Software Engineer I, II, III, etc?

[marssaxman]

I can't make any sense out of your argument. How on earth does this drive away people with experience?

I know what I can do and I know how much money I want to make. A company advertising a job with a salary attached would get some bonus points in my evaluation just because of their honesty and willingness to step out of the bullshit negotiation game, but I'd also know up front whether their expectations corresponded with mine. I'd only apply if it sounded like a reasonable offer, and if it sounded like a reasonable offer, why should I hesitate to apply?

Your perspective must be very different from mine, because I am totally failing to see this from a point of view where I can make your words make sense.