[lhnz]

Classic example is Linux and Torvalds.

But I was referring to the fact that nobody else is solving this specific problem. You either stay happy with your collection of walled gardens or you wait to see if he can unbreak the internet.

In fact in this case, the work goes ahead anyway. Perhaps you end up using it in ten years, or perhaps you don't. But neither of us gain anything from this argument at the present time.

[Rusky]

There are plenty of people working on this problem who aren't self-inflated racists. For example, https://sandstorm.io/ tackles a lot of the same questions without any of the deliberate obfuscation or insular community of Urbit (and, I might add, without a completely insane and un-optimizable VM underneath).

[lhnz]

They recommended it themselves but are solving more:

> If you're interested in that approach, I'd encourage you to check out sandstorm.io. This solves the problem for applications like a blog, email, or gitlab. What it doesn't do is make decentralized applications easier to build.