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by zardgiv 3672 days ago
This is absolutely silly.

Just to take it to absurdity, and I'm not claiming Moldbug is a member of the Nazi party, but society would not collapse if we shunned people who espoused, for example, the ideals of Hitler and the Nazi party.

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"I'm not saying he's a Nazi, but if he was..."

-- Every post about Curtis Yarvin, ever.

Sorry for knee-jerking, but there is really no basis for equating Mencius Moldbug to a Nazi, and I think it hurts the discussion when you do! I have read some of the texts in question, on the insistence of people who say I should disavow this person who I consider to be a real pal. I read the post "Why I am not a White Nationalist" and I don't know how anyone without an agenda can come to the conclusion that this is a person with hate in his bones.

I am stating that there are plenty of beliefs that do not cause society's collapse if we shun them. The only reason I mentioned Moldbug was that he's part of the dialog here, and I wanted to make sure people did not misconstrue what I said as a claim about him.

Since you just misconstrued what I said, I was clearly unsuccessful.

I apologize, since you obviously did not come up with the idea to equate Yarvin to Nazis. Your point is valid.
No worries, I've tried to be precise but text is sometimes a difficult medium to get my point across.
The shunning policy had done quite contrary consequences. The Lambdaconf campaign drew a lot of attention to the very person they want to no-platform, more and more people begin to search the identity Curtis Yarvin/Moldbug, even come to read his articles and try to interpret his ideologies, no matter whether they gonna protest or support.

P.S. the nazi party was a frequent practitioner of this shunning policy.

Please try to follow the conversation. I was addressing the claim that shunning certain beliefs would cause society to collapse, and I've clearly demonstrated that to be false. Not sure how what you've ranted about here ties into that.
In an individualist perspective, I agree with you, shunning won't cause society to collapse.

But when people advocating it to an aggressive level-extensively campaigning the rejection of a certain person at social scale, this is dangerous and smells like politics, and was exactly the way how hitler shunned the jews.

I think you're having difficulty distinguishing the concepts of "shunning" and "genocide."
Seems you are so inclined to acknowledge what nazi had done before the 'genocide', or you simply don't know what had really happened.
that should be 'declined' in my last comment, my apologies