[pjmlp]

Try to run Pages, iTunes, XCode or Apple Script on KDE.

[cmurf]

Right, where's XCode on KDE or GNOME? MIA of course. Where is the XCode equivalent IDE on GNOME or KDE? MIA, unfortunately.

[anonbanker]

If you spent ten minutes googling, you'd have found KDevelop.

[pjmlp]

Which doesn't offer the necessary XCode features for Darwin to be an OS X replacement.

[anonbanker]

We were talking about KDE and GNOME, not OSX replacement.

"Right, where's XCode on KDE or GNOME? MIA of course. Where is the XCode equivalent IDE on GNOME or KDE? MIA, unfortunately."

I'm curious as to which features you think are missing.

[pjmlp]

We are on "PureDarwin – An Informal Successor to OpenDarwin" thread.

It is all about having a OS X clone, not yet another GNU/Linux userspace clone.

So I am missing:

- Objective-C 2.1 support

- Swift

- Swift Playground

- Storyboards

- Plist editor

- Instruments

- Core Data

- ...

[anonbanker]

none of which matter in GNOME or KDE, which is what this thread (great grandparent on) has been about.

So, how is your reply not moving goalposts?

[anonbanker]

Try to run Krita, Clementine/Amarok, KDevelop or smalltalk on OS X.

Not because you can't, but because the above are better apps and a nicer experience than the Apple equivalents.

Once you get out of Apple's walled garden (and reality distortion field), you might find you like it better.

[pjmlp]

I use all major consumer OSes.

The point here is about the missing features OS X on Darwin, not about alternatives that aren't native OS X.

[anonbanker]

If that were true, you would've known about the apps I mentioned.

I seem to be responding to your anti-Free Software posts everywhere in this thread.

[pjmlp]

If PureDarwin is supposed to be a Mac OS X clone, it has to be provide Mac OS X userspace apps, not ports of UNIX clones.

I care about usable software and don't mind paying for developers for their work, they have to pay their bills.