[Frompo]

How can you afford to rent a van if you can't afford to buy a beer in a bar twice a year?

[eru]

I am talking about Germany here. You can afford a beer in a bar at least once a week there on welfare, no problems.

(I grew up on welfare in Germany. We had vacations, and we could afford to move. The biggest hassle is the bureaucracy with the Arbeitsamt involved.)