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by hnamazon123 3672 days ago
> That in fact, blacks are poor because of their culture and not ongoing structural racism? I honestly feel that any worthwhile conservative arguments are being made by center-left thinkers.

What evidence do you have to suggest this is the case and that these conservative hypotheses are fairly investigated?

Sociologists are under a lot of pressure to prove leftist memes and there are many cases of fraud and very poor scientific standards.

Sociology research is effectively useless to me because of leftism. In fact, most political reporting is useless because I have to spend many more cycles tying to figure out if the person isn't just trying to virtue signal instead of be pragmatic and truthful.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/article/chump-effect/610143

> First of all, discriminating against someone because they hold intolerant beliefs is categorically different from discriminating against someone based on their religion

Religion is a set of beliefs... What?

Mainstream Islam literally calls for people to be put to death for drawing pictures of Mohammad or renouncing Islam.

> he needs to provide examples of the useful discourse we are missing out on.

Ben Shapiro is a great example.

> Frankly, the center-left vs hard-left feel like the debates we should be having as a society

No thanks, let's have a discussion about right vs left vs hard left.

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> What evidence do you have to suggest this is the case and that these conservative hypotheses are fairly investigated?

I had a discussion on Reddit about how we could fix the problem with the police and race in America. One thing that came up was that, culturally, "don't be a rat." That is a cultural nuance that stands in the way of resolving the issue.

In terms of wealth, I routinely witness white privilege in South Africa. I pissed about far too much in school, dropped out of university and yet I'm still successful. Contrast this with my Uber drivers: highly motivated blacks who have to work 10 times harder than I ever did. One is on his 2nd degree and is still battling to be successful. I very clearly have an unfair advantage. However, culturally, "you must vote for the ANC." The ANC are responsible for the continuation of inequality in South Africa. I believe that there would be slightly more opportunity (certainly not as much as I have) were it not for that cultural law.