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by studentrob 3672 days ago
> I worked as a programmer in States for 2 years. I decided to go back on my own will.

> And I am not complaining the number of H1-B visa. In fact, I think the current policy works okay.

Oh okay, I understand now.

> What I was suggesting was that people cheated their way out of U.S. colleges would most likely spend zero effort looking for jobs in States. Their goal was to get the degree so that their parents could have reasons to put them in some position back in home.

Perhaps. You have better insight into what might be going through minds of Chinese students than I do.

> All in all, both group (kids in [1] and kids in the article) were doing very poorly academically in China. And all their struggles wouldn't be such a big deal if they just learn their places in the society.

You already noted you had better resources and therefore have an advantage at learning something that lands you an office job.

Assigning people to be poor forever is not a society in which I would like to live. This breeds more unproductive members of society. The rich pretend to ignore the poor, and vice versa. They don't communicate well. I support bettering communications between people, not worsening them. Countries like Germany, Finland, Norway and Sweden accept and support the poor.

So does China, for that matter. I have to believe some poor Chinese students do find success through public schools when given the right support. If the CPC believed the poor were only worth manual labor, they wouldn't provide education through high school. You don't need that much classroom training to move objects. Nor would they introduce programs like social workers who focus on poverty.

The question is, how much support do you want to provide to the poor, and what kind of future do you envision for China? Is it the same as it is today? Then fine, make no changes. But, if you wish for something better, I wonder if you're open to the idea that supporting the poor can bring about further economic growth. Building giant unoccupied buildings in China isn't helping you produce more GDP. Supporting and educating the poor would enable them to add more to GDP.

You could visit Europe, which has more social welfare programs, and ask yourself whether you would like to see any of those programs implemented in China. Perhaps you like China just the way it is in 2016. Or maybe you have another idea for how to improve your community or society.

I'm interested to hear your thoughts.