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by milhous 3679 days ago
If Santa Cruz had the will and might, what would stop it from becoming "New San Francisco"? Seems to me that creating a competing city is easier and quicker than reforming one.
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Several possible limiting factors:

1) Population - As of 2013 the U.S. Census Bureau estimated Santa Cruz's population at 62,864 [1], versus ~860,000, for San Francisco alone, as of 2015.[2]

2) Water - "The SCWD currently has four water supply sources: 1) surface water diversions from three creeks and one natural spring on the Santa Cruz Country Coast; 2) surface water diversions from San Lorenzo River; 3) surface water from Loch Lomond Reservoir; 4) groundwater extracted from the Purisima Formation by the Live Oak well system."[3] The recent drought represented a sobering reality for residents, regarding capacity of the existing system.

3) Geography - Perhaps someone more knowledgeable on this might weigh in, on this, but the area comprises a number of marine terraces; you go from ocean to hilly redwoods in about three miles, or less, with most people living primarily on the marine terrace plateaus. You could develop it, I guess (?)

It's a gem, for sure, and not saying it's impossible; I guess we'd have to define the characteristics of what a New SF would represent, for you. : o )

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Cruz,_California

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco

[3] http://www.ucsc.edu/conserving-water/water-supply.html

Water is the biggest limiting factor. The campus has plans to expand further into the redwoods and build additional student housing, but can't do so without an adequate water supply. Currently their plans would further endanger local fish e.g. the smelt.
Santa Cruz hates building housing. It's worse than SF in that regard.

Source: Lived here 10 years.

Well, it's all built out and no existing property owner wants to have a 5-story monstrosity go up next door. The city is trying to prioritize condos and ADUs but that's a slow process.

It's not an easy problem to solve.

Yes a five story "monstrosity" that will block out the sun permanently leaving the city in darkness. Geez. The fact that you frame necessary housing that way is the problem.
The "corridors program" is ramming severs 3-4 story high density housing projects along several of the main arterial roads in the city, mostly on the east side.

Those proposing them and voting to support them do not live in the impacted area and throw up their hands when residents complain -- "we need housing".

How do you define "might"? I mean, if you mean by that, the concentration of wealth, talent, and established industry players that San Francisco has, then, sure, if they had that, they could easily become the New San Francisco.

The question is how they would ever get the might?

> Seems to me that creating a competing city is easier and quicker than reforming one.

Santa Cruz is an existing city, and apparently one that you propose reforming into your ideal of what San Francisco should be. Why is that easier to reform that existing city than San Francisco?