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by ci5er 3683 days ago
> nor representative of Java as used outside enterprise development.

It isn't? I've turned down a couple of sweet gigs, at times when I really needed the comfort of work-group structure and maybe even a pay check, because I assumed that (based on my reading) it was all like that. I knew from history, back in the days when it was called Oak that it was a pretty delightful language. Then WS-* and Enterprise OO happened, and I assumed that's where it all went...
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vonmoltke 3683 days ago
I write NLP software in Java and we don't have any of that crap. We have had a couple devs pass through from that world, but we have largely avoided any of the architecture astronaut crap that plagues enterprise development.

It's a shame that the name "Java" has become synonymous with it, since it really isn't a bad language (as of Java 7, at least).

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SZJX 3674 days ago
Why is Java 8 even worse though? It supposedly introduces several mechanisms to reduce redundancy?
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