[luketych]

All people are immature. Maybe we should stop trying to hide that, acting all proper. I talk that way as well, it's better than censwhoring your thoughts 24/7.

All people are also racist and those who say they arent usually are the most racist. That's a different discussion, but similarly applies.

It does no good to be afraid of being human. We are simian. We are an immature, racist, justifying species. So what? Embrace the grease. It's going to get worse before it gets better. Or maybe your precious AI will save you?

Good luck my rational human friends.

[dang]

> I talk that way as well, it's better than censwhoring your thoughts 24/7.

That works in personal conversation far more than it does on a large, optionally anonymous internet forum. The HN guidelines are the way they are for good reason, and we all need to follow them when commenting here.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11715730 and marked it off-topic.

[luketych]

So what you are saying is that we should censor who we are when we are on the web?

For some reason that sounds wrong. The web should adapt to us, not the other way around. That is one of the big things wrong with the web and the world today.

It comes down to Paul Graham not being creative enough to implement a system that can organize human ideas without resorting to police-state tactics.

I get it, it's a seemingly intractable problem. Not insulting the keymaster, Paul Graham, just challenging the idea that we should all conform to some webmaster's view of how the web should work.

I am not going to let supreme douchebags like Zuckerberg and Larry the Page dictate how we should think or behave, thank you very much.

I will never follow an out-of-touch techie ruling from inside the silicon valley bubble. Would rather go to war.

[luketych]

Yeah well Paul Graham is also losing touch. A massive policeforce doesn't scale.

[throwastone]

Respectfully disagree.

We are what we strive to be. Hacker News was, once upon a time, almost purely respectful even in the face of stark criticism or blatant dismissals. That, sadly, has changed.

[luketych]

Over many hours of awareness and training I would agree. But at the end of the day the elephant calls the shots, not the rider. Unless we learn to influence the beast more and more, and in all areas of our lives.

P.S. Is it just me who loves the rush of getting downvoted? The truth is almost always unpopular. Not saying that what I say is necessarily the truth, but it's a good sign :).

Pussified zombies ;).

[MaxfordAndSons]

This strikes me as a plainly false equivocation - railing against political correctness or "acting proper" as a way of justifying being "immature, racist, justifying". But one can (and must, imo) agree that too much political correctness can be problematic and unproductive without accepting the next proposition.

[luketych]

There are extremes on both ends. Somewhere in the middle the truth lies.

[0xdeadbeefbabe]

You forgot sexist. That is so annoying.