[peterarmstrong]

It may be a witch hunt, but I have a 2008 Prius that has had a number of issues with brakes after potholes etc -- going for about one second without having much effect.

It has happened to me once when I went over a pothole and my wife a number of times (she drives more).

I'm in Canada and my local dealer can't reproduce the problem yet, but put yourself in the position of a Toyota owner who is no longer confident in being safe and who would get less than half the purchase price for a car with < 70,000 KM on it.

The Honda dealer doesn't want Toyotas as tradeins; they can't sell them.

Can you feel the anger?

I don't want to have to buy another car; I want to work on my startup. But I don't want to worry about my family's safety or buying some used car.

Toyota should be forced to buy back their crap products at some reasonable percentage, since these problems remind me of "heisenbugs" in code...

[peterarmstrong]

Or to put it more succinctly: just because there are stupid and/or dishonest people complaining about bugs in a product does NOT mean there are no bugs in said product or that all claims are baseless.

I would bet any sample of 3000 complaints about the Ford Pinto or any product had at least some stupid and some dishonest ones.