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by jb1991
3693 days ago
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Run time type checks in my experience mean a few things: 1) You can compile or run the program fine even if there are type errors. 2) An existing type error may never be caught if that particular block of execution never runs. Then you can have unexpected surprised later when you finally do something to trigger that block. 3) They are slower than static type checking due to the runtime costs of checking types. Statically-typed compilers can do enormous optimizations once they know exactly what the types are. |
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If I need to do smart things in Lisp ahead-of-time, I may want to use a DSL and prove whatever I want to prove on it, and generate correct-by-construction code that does not check things at runtime. I could use ACL2, too. Please note also that I can work in a different language when it makes sense.
3) Statically typed compilers include Lisp ones. My code is sometimes underlined in orange like yours, because I made some dumb typo or because types do not match. Likewise, optimizations are done too, in particular inside functions, where things are more static than in the global environment.
What about efficiency? Look at the postal system: you have to wrap letters and objects in enveloppe or packages (except postcards, which are like fixnum), put a label on it with many informations... what a waste of time and space! Yet, each object has a type now and can be dispatched reliably and efficiently. If you put your letter in the wrong box, you will have enough information to recover and perform your job. Once letters are all filtered out from packages, you can avoid checking that they are letters and gain some efficiency. You can build a new kind of service (drone-delivery?) with a special label and dedicated rules and integrate it within a running system without restarting the world. If anything goes wrong, you can have a generic error handling mechanism that does not crash everything. Static types are more like pipes: clean water here, used water there, and they never mix in a wrong way thanks to pipe calculus. So while I agree that static analysis can be great for doing crazy optimizations, there are use-cases where dynamic typing shines, and generally people replicate that using tagged objects anyway: think about game entities which are "typed" dynamically, or frameworks when you can load custom scripts (and those are generally not typed-checked, unlike Lisp).
2) You plan for failure. Even in a statically-type language, you'll have runtime bugs. Only in a mission-critical system are errors fatal. If you place restarts or error handlers accordingly, you'll have the opportunity to fix your stuff. Ask Erlang people about reliable systems.
1) Worse, you compile your code, the compiler complains but you can still run the produced code! Then you can test your error-handling code.
Seriously, this is not a problem in practice. Coding and testing are interleaved because the environment is right here awaiting orders. If you look at the end-result, I am doing the job of the static type checker by fuzzying input in a way that makes sense for that particular function. I also have a global view of the system and more context to decide what will happen at runtime, or not. When I fail (I am not proud of it, like most static analyzers), the runtime is here to catch it.