[danso]

Huh? Some of the most clever (and destructive) hacks involve an element of social engineering. Given that security implementations are designed to compensate for human social behaviors and instincts and limitations, social engineering is just as much a part of hacking as cryptography.

[clay_to_n]

I think you read his statement backwards :) He's advocating social engineering whenever possible.

[danso]

Ah, I think my brain got led down a "garden path", a concept I just learned had an official name from yesterday's Parsey McParseface announcement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden_path_sentence

[hoke_t]

Explain please? I cannot make sense of the op's sentence in a way that advocates social engineering.

[wiml]

The first half of the sentence is saying, "Don't do things the hard way (hacking) when you can do them the easy way (social engineering)". The second half is saying "Everyone should know this."

[startling]

"It's not clever to hack [with social engineering] something that you can socially engineer"

vs

"It's not clever to hack something [i.e. with technical exploits] that you can socially engineer""

[demircancelebi]

Interesting. I am not a native speaker and I cannot make sense of the op's sentence in a way you understand it. How did you understand op's sentence in the first place?

[hoke_t]

lol just saw this. Basically, I thought he was being sarcastic in saying "Clever win" and took the "It's not clever to hack something that you can socially engineer" as "It's not clever to socially engineer". Hopefully that helps.

[andreasklinger]

op said the same