[harlanlewis]

It's a bit unexpected, but I've found Outlook to be the best iOS email client these days. It's bloated and has quite a few rendering bugs, but for the basic email-as-task-list workflow pioneered by Mailbox et al I haven't come across any current players that are better.

Kind of sad that the explosion of clever email and calendar apps a few years ago has collapsed into a handful that aren't as good as we used to have.

[Dirlewanger]

Their web application rewrite that they did last year though is hot disgusting garbage. I don't know how they managed to make something so slow and sluggish as the "new" Outlook. Downright embarrassing.

[FussyZeus]

+1 to this, I LOVE Outlook on iOS. It's got issues for sure but overall it's the best one I've used, and I've used a lot of them.

[Randuin]

I wish there was something like it just for Calendaring though. Especially on the desktop. For email I'm already using Polymail full time and it's a hassle to have two email clients just for calendar.

[grinich]

What do you use for calendaring right now?

What do you wish it did?

[brerlapn]

Not the OP, but on my Android device I have an easier time of calendaring since basically any app I choose will show all of the calendars I want (personal, my work calendar, my manager's calendar, my team's calendar) in the same space. For desktop, I did have Sunrise's desktop app until I noticed I wasn't getting a proper sync of some (apparently random) appointments from desktop to cloud/mobile, and even more so because I accepted an appointment via Sunrise and it changed my email alias in the response from my actual address to Sunrise's generic "[e-mail]" so that people then started emailing me at the generic email rather than my actual address.

Most of my calendars are Google Apps. Outlook was my backup for the work calendar using the Google Apps Outlook Sync app (although I've noticed a few sync failures there, too), and just adding additional calendars to Outlook without having all of my email there too looks like it requires some kind of arcane magick. Thunderbird+Lightning got rotated out of the mix quickly due to a lot of issues syncing and getting multiple calendars into it.

Probably because everyone we're communicating with is mixing between Google Apps/webview calendar and Outlook or Office 365, I also find that I regularly can't see an appointment that is emailed to me in my email client as it shows up as an .ics file attachment instead.

So featurewise:

- Most important for me: Easy addition of multiple calendars, where I can just select which calendar a new appt should be added, as easily as I can in my Android clients- I hate using web clients for calendaring, and they never really show multiple calendars well. NOTE: I mean that the calendar has a direct sync to each of the calendars online, not having one main account to which I have to share all of my other calendars. I want one place where I can go to view and create appointments and then have them also show up in their respective accounts. - Supports open standards like CalDAV/CardDAV as well as syncs to Google or Office 365 (I can select a provider like Fastmail that uses CalDAV for my personal calendar, but I'm stuck with Google or O365 for work) - Desktop client, multiple views (agenda, today, week, month) - drag-and-drop of items into the calendar to create a new appointment - "Send to calendar" from an email as an option - Categorization/tagging on an appointment would be nice - Outlook allows this but Google doesn't seem to allow tagging appointments like you can email

A bit of a data dump, but a desktop client that handles multiple calendars well is surprisingly difficult to find in Windows. I happily pay for a number of otherwise free services (Pandora, Evernote, Pocket, Lastpass, etc.), but there really isn't even a pay option.

[tdkl]

Did you try eMClient? One of the rare clients that does *DAV on Windows.

[brerlapn]

Thanks, I hadn't heard of it but I'll see how it works.

[jmiserez]

Does it still store your credentials on their servers and proxy all your mail through the US [1], or has that been fixed?

Or is/was this FUD?

https://blog.winkelmeyer.com/2015/01/warning-microsofts-outl...

[rayiner]

> I've found Outlook to be the best iOS email client these days

Aside from being a massive security risk.

[tptacek]

In what sense?

[rayiner]

My understanding is that Outlook for iOS uses a cloud service that talks to the Exchange server and stores your credentials/data: https://blog.winkelmeyer.com/2015/01/warning-microsofts-outl.... So logging in involves giving Microsoft (and indirectly Amazon, since it runs on AWS), clear-text access to your information.

[Velox]

Your credentials aren't stored in clear text. They are encrypted with a key only your device has.

[wglb]

So how do these creds get to the exchange server from the cloud?

[SilasX]

So? You have no expectation of privacy in email anyway, right?

[rayiner]

My Exchange server is 15 feet down the hall. When I use a normal Exchange client, the only people who can see my data in clear-text are myself and my employer (who owns the Exchange server). Anyone in-between just sees an encrypted stream. But when I use Outlook for iOS, people I've never met at Amazon and Microsoft can see my email.

I think the former situation creates a legitimate expectation of privacy. I think the latter situation does not. Which is why I use Apple Mail instead of Outlook for iOS.

[SilasX]

Something visible to anyone in your employer's management -- hence work email in general -- doesn't have an expectation of privacy.

[overcast]

You should check out https://www.uniboxapp.com, I switched to it during the first beta testing, and haven't looked back. Originally it was a Mac OSX only client, but now on iPhone and iPad. Organizes email by the person you're communicating with, like text messaging. Obviously an email client only, and not a super duper corporate client.

[colinbartlett]

Outlook on iOS is great. It used to be called Acompli until it was acquired by Microsoft. I had long hoped all of the Sunrise features would be incorporated into Outlook before Microsoft shut it down, but no such luck.