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by lordnacho 3697 days ago
I got offered a job in Switzerland last year. It was the weirdest experience ever.

What I suspect happened was I'd written "scrum certified" on my cv, and the job had "scrum manager" in the title, so the poor people were bound by the law of stupid to interview only people with this string in their cv.

They never asked me anything relevant. I code a bunch of languages, I can manage people, yada yada, they didn't care. I don't know why on earth they wanted to hire me after chatting briefly about my experience and doing some silly think-out-of-the-box exercise. The HR lady then proceeded to tell me about the great benefits of working for them (they pay your mortgage, not bad eh?). One of the strangest things about the interview was that the HR person was there at all, and leading it. She presented the manager, who politely said hello, and then sat there as she asked me every inane and cliche question you've ever heard.

So then it got to the documentation stage. They asked for this reference letter, which I had, but I warned them my previous employer was... Me! So obviously they shouldn't be surprised if it was a bit flattering and signed by some partner of mine. Didn't matter. Just give us the letter!

And then they also wanted my graduation certificate. Now for years I've not needed this document, I actually did not know what certificate from my school looked like. At Oxford you have to sign up for a weird Latin ceremony, which I didn't do because I'd started work the week after finishing uni. So this lady insisted on getting a signed cert from the university office. I reminded her is was over a decade ago, but no help. Luckily I was passing through anyway.

I also hinted quite strongly that it might not be the right kind of work for me, and that I might want some sort of term limited contract. Didn't seem to matter.

1 comments

What is in your opinion the right way to check whether you have actually graduated at Oxford and what grades you had if not asking for the official documents that contain this information?
The right way is to ask for the documents.

The right question is whether a guy who is over a decade out needs to do so, as the degree is not evidence of competence when it's been that long.

Of course it's possible they went with getting paperwork rather than using the interview as an opportunity to ask relevant questions. Interviewing is hard.

> The right way is to ask for the documents.

That's what they did, so why are you complaining? (Note that these documents are called Zeugnis in German, which translates to certificate, so maybe something got lost in translation if you think your university certificates are the wrong documents.)

I also disagree that an academic title earned 10 years ago is irrelevant. Having graduated with good grades from a top school signals a lot, even if it's been a while ago.

So rare in the states. I have as far as I remember, I never had to prove I graduated anything. Some companies do background checks, maybe part of that is to call up the unis and ask if I graduated? No idea what the uni makes public, but I have definitely not had to hand in transcripts or anything.
In the US at least, you can usually get information from http://www.studentclearinghouse.org