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by tiatia 3698 days ago
The reference letter system is bullshit.

Besides, most of them are written by the employee himself upon the request of the employer (too busy, can you write it yourself and I sign it?). My advice would be: If in doubt, fake it. The chance the the company will call your previous employer are not zero but close to zero. Even if they call they would just asked if you worked there and not if the letter of recommendation is genuine.

Side Story: I remember when I applied to a (non IT) job closely related to field of expertise at BASF. I upload a shitload of documents into their nightmarish SAP application interface. A few days later I get an email: Thank you for your application but please also upload the letters or reference. I wrote back, that since I was living in the US the last years, I don't have such letters since such letters are not common there but I would be happy to provide references (from MAJOR names by the way).

They wrote back: If you don't have reference letters then we don't need you. We deleted your application from the system (an application that too a tremendous time to create thanks to the SAP application interface bullshit).

So, the bottom line:

1. Letters of reference are bullshit in most cases. If you really need them, FAKE them. No kidding! 2. Don't take this German nonsense in any way as a good example. A phone call is a better thing. In IT I assume you rarely need it. A friend told me: "If I hire somebody I don't need his resume. I just want to have a look at hit git account." 3. If you ever hear on of the Bozos from BASF or Evionik speaking in public of "not enough supply of skilled people" then you know in which category to put them.

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I don't thinking faking references is a good long term play.

So turns out you really get a great job, and get promoted to manager. Now HR hears a rumor and checks your application, finds out you lied. Guess what happens to your job?

Depends. First, you may not have gotten the first job at all. Second, I doubt any one would find out about a rigged letter. If it is totally fake (you never worked there) then there is a bigger chance.