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by striking 3702 days ago
> I don't actually have any particularly strong opinions on systemd itself. I've had issues with some of the core developers that I think are much too cavalier about bugs and compatibility, and I think some of the design details are insane (I dislike the binary logs, for example), but those are details, not big issues. [1]

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> I have to say, I don't really get the hatred of systemd. I think it improves a lot on the state of init, and no, I don't see myself getting into that whole area.

> Yeah, it may have a few odd corners here and there, and I'm sure you'll find things to despise. That happens in every project. I'm not a huge fan of the binary logging, for example. But that's just an example. I much prefer systemd's infrastructure for starting services over traditional init, and I think that's a much bigger design decision.

> Yeah, I've had some personality issues with some of the maintainers, but that's about how you handle bug reports and accept blame (or not) for when things go wrong. If people thought that meant that I dislike systemd, I will have to disappoint you guys. [2]

Both a quick Google away. To sum it up: Linus is okay with systemd. He just doesn't like its maintainers because they're straight up primadonnas. [3]

1: http://www.zdnet.com/article/linus-torvalds-and-others-on-li...

2: https://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/06/30/0058243/interviews...

3: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/04/05/torvalds_sievers_dus...

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Their latest may well be that when logind do not find a functioning journald it will dump its output into /dev/kmsg, potentially swamping vital kernel output.

https://plus.google.com/+StevenRostedt/posts/RCCcWG5A5Lb

Those are the ones I found too, but the previous parent says that Linus has spoken against systemd which is new to me.