[pessimizer]

Summary: not discriminating against applicants before speaking to them based on where they're from, where they've worked, what school they went to, how long they've been in the profession, and who they know that you know is equivalent to "lowering the bar."

[points 2,3,4,5,6,7,9]

In addition, pretend like not ruling people out before you've spoken to them is equivalent to not reviewing their work, or giving them a "diversity" grade boost.

[points 1,8]

edit: and about "open source" contributions; ethnic minorities and women are far more likely to have worked in large corporations rather than in open source or startups, because those companies are held to a higher standard in their behavior towards minorities than the kind of self-assembling social clubs that this article (and site) are focused on.

edit 2: I know (very closely) a woman who has been in IT for 40 years. She was an English major, and has absolutely no involvement with open source. She doesn't know people in startups. Why would someone presume that she doesn't know the job?

[acctjustforyou]

>Summary: not discriminating against applicants before speaking to them based on where they're from, where they've worked, what school they went to, how long they've been in the profession, and who they know that you know is equivalent to "lowering the bar."

So, suppose you had to fill an open position for a developer and you had two candidates: an MIT grad with years of experience at Apple and Google, and a homeless guy who never went to college and never worked in IT before.

You're honestly going to try to tell us that you have no idea who might be the better candidate?

And if hypothetically you could only interview one, you'd what? Be totally stymied? Flip a coin maybe?

There's no possible way you can actually believe what you're saying.

>In addition, pretend like not ruling people out before you've spoken to them is equivalent to not reviewing their work, or giving them a "diversity" grade boost. [points 1,8]

I don't recall him mentioning ruling people out before speaking to them, although once you get to a certain scale that has to happen at some point since if an individual manager gets 1,000 applicants for one position on his team he can't speak to them all. Or is math racist too?

The scale requirement becomes much smaller when talking about reviewing someone's work, because that is much more involved than a resume scan or even most phone screens.

Giving them a diversity grade boost is the definition of racism/sexism/*ism. Funny how youve managed to find yourself on the same side as someone who gives a buxom under qualified blonde a second interview because "we don't have any hot chicks in this office."

[pessimizer]

Are you honestly going to try to tell me that you get a lot of homeless applicants? If I get a homeless applicant, they're getting an interview.

[acctjustforyou]

If I get an applicant who cannot or will not understand what a thought experiment is, they're not getting an interview - I don't care what college they went to.

And yes, I registered this account because your comment was so breathtakingly ill-informed.

[acctjustforyou]

>edit: and about "open source" contributions; ethnic minorities and women are far more likely to have worked in large corporations rather than in open source or startups, because those companies are held to a higher standard in their behavior towards minorities than the kind of self-assembling social clubs that this article (and site) are focused on.

Open source software is probably the single most meritocratic resume-building opportunity I've ever seen in any industry.

If you don't like the fact that many minorities and women, far from being denied this opportunity, are simply declining to take advantage of it (as most developers do, by the way), then to paraphrase Richard Feynman, perhaps you should go find another universe where the conditions are more appealing to your sensibilities.

Or to put it another way, if you think that a submission on github containing a great new feature and some long overdue bugfixes for an open source project would get rejected because the submitter was black, then the part of your mind that desperately needs certain groups of people to be Irreparably Downtrodden is causing you to lose a great deal of your grip on reality.