[vog]

> So politics will probably pull the "your complaints are all addressed in the still secret parts / were changed after the leak, we pinky-swear" card.

Maybe, but I deeply hope that the public reaction to that will be either:

"Yeeeaaah, sure ..."

Or, the more diplomatic variant:

"How do you plan to reestablish the trust needed to make your promise credible?"

[glasz]

there were 250k ppl on the street in berlin. marching against ttip.

the first thing spiegel.de did, while the ppl were marching, was releasing a polemic article basically saying "it's all nazis".

days later gabriel went public: "we don't care. we'll do it anyway."

now, nobody try telling me shit about public opinion's worthiness!

[freddref]

Will the public reaction be considered at all in this proposal? In line with current trends is it not more likely that public reaction will for the most part be ignored?