[rmtew]

Regarding:

> Everything we do at Facebook is focused on our mission to make the world more open and connected.

I often find that when I follow Facebook links, I get a login page, requiring me to create an account to see the content.

And not even for Facebook itself, I tried to look at images on Pinterest the other day, and if I followed more than one link, I'd get an overlay requiring me to login via Facebook. The site was almost unusable if I wasn't logged into Facebook.

The only other sites I've visited in a long time, that hide content unless I login, are newspaper sites.

[lucaspiller]

TripAdvisor does something similar, on the mobile web app you can only view the top 3 reviews and need to download their app to see the rest.

I'm sure some exec thought this would be a great idea to get more downloads, but when I'm out looking for a restaurant I'm not going to waste my time and data waiting for their 112mb (iOS) app to download. I'll just base my decision on the reviews I see or go to one of the many other review sites.

[Grue3]

Oh god, TripAdvisor is so horrible now. Even on the desktop, you get shown the first 3 sentences of each review and if you click "More" you get a full-screen popup asking you to login.

[ethanbond]

At least they're not acting like they're making "a more open and connected world."

[JaumeGreen]

There's an option there for reading the rest of the reviews in the mobile web, but you have to select it again and again on every site you want to read the reviews from.

So, you don't need to download the app, but they make you suffer.

[hkmurakami]

Or the fact that you can no longer directly save articles from the Facebook iOS app to 3rd party read it later apps like Instapaper.

[evincarofautumn]

Facebook can only really enforce privacy settings on content by authenticating you, unless the content was shared publicly. That’s pretty benign.

But I abhor requiring Facebook login to merely view non-FB sites. It’s antithetical to Facebook’s stated purpose, and I think they ought to make it a TOS violation.

[fit2rule]

Yeah, I too fell over the double-speak in this statement. Facebook is open? I don't think so - or is there some way I can query all my data, ever, personally, and do my own data analysis on my Timeline, and my friends', and so on .. can I export this data (all of it) for use in other systems? Is this portable somewhere? Do I have to use Facebook, or can I just take my data elsewhere .. etc.

The only reason I use Facebook is the only reason I ever bothered to use Windows - because my friends insisted on using it and can't be convinced otherwise, due to their unwillingness to learn new things. It is not a technologically suitable solution to the problem of FOAF-networking, imho. Its socially accepted, only.

[evincarofautumn]

You can download all your data[1]. You can also use the API (as an app, not an individual, IIRC) to query whatever else is visible to you. So someone could conceivably create a competing social network and offer an “import all Facebook data” feature, modulo privacy/legal concerns.

[1]: https://www.facebook.com/help/131112897028467/

[fit2rule]

As has been noted: no, you cannot 'dump all your data'. In face Facebook goes out of its way to make sure you don't know everything they know about you .. that is the point entirely.

[pmlnr]

Nonsense. That thing they offer as download doesn't even have the comments I left on not my posts.

[pmlnr]

Try blocking all content not originated from the domain you visited, that is even more fun.