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So I mean that is basically useless because I'm definitely not here to argue that if something works in me it will work in everyone. Diet is a really hard thing to create broad models that works for everyone, and that's sort of my major point: there are many ways to make a diet that works and saying "this is the best and only diet" pretty much is definitionally wrong.

> This is the last comment that I will make... I don't want to offend anybody.

No offense taken, I greatly appreciate the conversation and apologize if I've implied otherwise.

> Remember: Fat+Carbs, not just carbs, causes insulin resistance and leads to type 2 diabetes. If you eliminate the fat your diabetes will improve. If you eliminate the carbs your diabetes will also improve... but you will reduce your energy levels by forcing your body into ketosis and greatly increase your odds of high blood pressure, stroke, heart disease, digestive problems and more.

I would totally agree except that all of the things you mentioned as bad effects of a ketogenic diet are well studied bad effects of moderate fat moderate carb diet, not a high fat low carb (ie: keto) diet. I'm not here to argue for keto, just to say that there are many roads to the same place. A vegan diet may even be the best one for the most people, but if you believe that science is the best way to understand this stuff (and I do) then there isn't science to support that position.