[hypermatt]

First JRuby guys to Engine yard, now Tim. Sun is losing a lot of good people. Now I wonder how the main ordinary developers are doing there ;/ Can't be a fun place right now

[durin42]

I think it's safe to say that Sun no longer exists:

  % curl -I http://www.sun.com/
  HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently
  Server: Sun-Java-System-Web-Server/7.0
  Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 02:16:46 GMT
  P3p: policyref="http://www.sun.com/p3p/Sun_P3P_Policy.xml", CP="CAO DSP COR CUR ADMa DEVa TAIa PSAa PSDa CONi TELi OUR  SAMi PUBi IND PHY ONL PUR COM NAV INT DEM CNT STA POL PRE GOV"
  Location: http://www.oracle.com
  Content-length: 0

Somehow, I have trouble feeling the same sense of sympathy for Oracle at the moment.

[mhartl]

  % curl -I http://www.sun.com/
  HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently

:,(

Back in the day, I cut my teeth on a Sun SPARCstation at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics. This is a sad time.

[icey]

I know a few people from Sun. The salespeople are happy to go to Oracle. The technical people are all looking for other things to do now.

[SwellJoe]

It was the sales people taking over that killed Sun, IMHO, so it seems likely to hasten the demise of Oracle when they get there and start celebrating in earnest. Since most hackers don't have much love for Oracle, I guess it won't be too upsetting to see it happen.

[prakash]

With a handful of exceptions, most enterprise companies are sales companies in the long run.

[patrickgzill]

Maybe now the Sun sales people will learn how to sell from their Oracle compatriots.