[edw519]

The quality (and apparent sincerity) of your reply merit a full inhaling of your 2 references. I'm off to Amazon as soon as I finish typing this.

"The idea being that you could focus on business processes without thinking about implementation details."

Bingo! In 18 months of sharing this concept, I think you may have closest to understanding it (or at least explaining your understanding).

"Then I discovered I hate running a business, not just dis-like but hate so much I never want to do it again :-("

I may be the yin for your yang. I can't wait to have a business to run and customers to serve! Seeing a customer achieve their goals with my support is like oxygen to me. I have to have it. I love hacking, but it's only a means to an end. If I had something to implement, I'd be implementing, not hacking.

Kindly put your email address on your profile and stay in touch.

[pchristensen]

I'm in the same boat as ajmoir. I thought of implementing is as a DSL for businesses - let the "tigers" specify it in the DSL and then the implementation can be upgraded underneath the definition. Naturally, Lisp would be a good fit. I do enjoy the success of seeing customers achieve goals, but I prefer the tractability of engineering systems over the political systems of the real world. I'd certainly love to hack for businesses if there was a thin wrapper over them (ie business oriented cofounder). I've already emailed you expressing interest in your project, so keep me in mind too!

I haven't read naked objects - maybe that would help me get over my general distrust of OO. Thanks for the recommendation!

[edw519]

I'm sure we'll be talking again. In the meantime, save $60 (for the time being) and get started on-line:

http://www.nakedobjects.org/book/content.html