[kleer001]

sorry, I have to more than upvote this.

I wish my parents had subscribed to your stated model. As an adult I've had to scrape and twist to grow the kind of discipline I've seen lattice up great things. Friends, colleagues, lovers, teachers, the lot of them I've seen practice less or more discipline. And always the ones with more looked healthier, more content, creative and joyous. Then again we can't always rely on appearances.

Still, it's better than it could have been, my raising. No sour grapes.

"Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp, Or what's a heaven for?" - Robert Browning