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by avukich 3721 days ago
You are clearly filled to the brim with hate and vitriol.

Am I proud that my government has done everything it has done in all of our history? No. Am I proud of the vast majority of our actions around the world? You're damn right I am. We have done a hell of a lot more good around the world in our relatively short history than bad.

Regarding Japan in WW2, your little article fails to mention the reason that the US was conducting economic warfare against Japan. Those sanctions were in response to the atrocities and naked aggressions being committed by the Japanese in China since the begin of the second Sino-Japanese War in 1937. They aren't much different than the sanctions that the world is imposing on North Korea, Iran, etc. for their flaunting of international treaties. I am sure the Chinese who were being slaughtered wholesale by the Japanese are pretty happy we put a stop to their little empire building experiment.

As for Europe in WW2, yes the USSR (not Russia) did take Berlin, but they alone didn't beat Germany. Could they have done it if the US had never gotten involved? Maybe. If so it certainly would have been a hell of a lot more costly in human lives among other things for them. I suspect if the US had just stayed out of Europe completely and let the Germans and USSR beat the hell out of each other we would have never had the cold war because there would have only been one world power at that point, the USA. I have a sneaking suspicion that the VAST majority of Western Europeans are very happy that the US did get involved. You don't hear very many stories of people trying to escape West Germany for the utopia of East Germany and the Soviet Bloc for a reason.

As for Korea, I'd love to know what leads you to believe that the Kim Dynasty would be gone had the US not stopped the North. Maybe you've been to the North Korean unicorn lair (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/nov/30/unicorn-lair-di...) for your source?

As for the Middle East, you are forgetting the fact that there has been almost non-stop conflict there since biblical times and the US didn't exist then. It wasn't the US that started the Israel/Palestine conflict either (http://users.ox.ac.uk/~ssfc0005/The%20Middle%20East%20The%20...). Palestine was a British territory and the British decided that the Jews displaced by all the hate they received in Europe (by way more entities than just the Nazis) before and during WW2 should have a nation in Palestine. It never fails to amaze me how everyone always talks about the "atrocities" committed by Israel against the Palestinians. I find it appalling that what they have done to protect themselves from their Arab neighbors who have attacked them multiple times and from Palestinian terrorists are "atrocities" while the things done against them are not called the same thing. Strapping a bomb to yourself, walking into a cafe and blowing up a bunch of innocent women and children is not and never will be equivalent to using a missile to kill a known terrorist and killing a few innocent civilians accidentally in the process. The intent of the first case is to target innocents whereas the intent of the second is to target a killer.

You are correct. We are all monsters here in the US. Horrible, heartless monsters and all the world's woes are our fault. We clearly are "arrogant dicks to the planet:" http://www.globalhumanitarianassistance.org/countryprofile/u... http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-23341189 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_United_States_disc... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_the_... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_United_States_inve...

I don't even know why I bothered to respond to this ridiculous, hate filled post of yours because one can't have a calm, rational, productive discussion with someone as blinded by hate and anger as you are. I have never nor will I ever claim that America is a perfect place free from flaw, but I am damn proud to be an American and I am proud of all the good that we have brought to the world. If you are too blinded by your hate to see the good that comes out of America, well, I'm sorry for you.

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Am I really the one full of hatred, now? Am I really the hateful one who has been wishing the death of others? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11067470
Yes, yes you are the hateful one. You are claiming that Americans are monsters and responsible for all the problems in the middle east and most of the world. I claimed that a man that hacked into the FBI to expose all the personal details of employees of the FBI should be captured and killed. To clarify, I meant killed by being sentenced to death for treason. The VAST majority of the FBI works to do things such as stop the spread of child pornography, kidnapping, and other criminal behaviors and posting all the personal information on those people so that the criminals that they helped put away can potentially seek retribution against them and/or their families is a very serious crime in my opinion. I found it (and still do) quite disgusting that so many people were applauding such reckless and criminal behavior.

In the effort of full disclosure, I also wish the death on anyone who thinks it is fine to murder innocent people through acts of terrorism such as 9/11, San Bernadino, Paris, Brussels, etc. Note that I didn't say every Muslim or everyone from the Middle East or any other broad stroke like you used.