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by jaysonelliot 3722 days ago
Hear, hear. And with the introduction of Adobe XD, Sketch has a rapidly closing window to eliminate the worst bugs.

In the last release, I was plagued by one where undo didn't work. Not only did it not work, it randomly shifted layers around the artboard or introduced other glitches into my work. I can't think of many actions that are more automatic than hitting undo — when that essential safety net becomes destructive, it's devastating.

Hopefully 3.7 introduces much-needed stability. At the moment, Adobe XD is still new enough that it won't cause a mass exodus. No layers, for example. But a year from now, either Sketch will have worked incredibly hard to retain the users who stayed because there was no alternative, or XD will have matured and eaten their lunch.

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I sometimes hide under my desk after hitting command+z. That pinwheel of death is just unacceptable at the rate in which I see it while performing such a critical and rudimentary action.

I still couldn't imagine going back to Photoshop, and I found XD unimpressive. As you say, about a year or so will tell.

Off topic: I can't see Adobe XD without seeing the emoticon
This :) I haven't ever heard of Adobe XD, so parsing that sentence about it's introduction was difficult
Hi @tcfunk, feel free to give it a try here: http://adobe.ly/xd It's our first public preview (beta 1), so a lot of features are still being developed. Now that the solid foundation is there, you can expect more and more features with our monthly releases. There is a new release now in April. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts. @demianborba
Eh...Not really. Have you ever opened an Adobe application up on your machine? The next time you do be sure to fire up Activity Monitor and see your CPU light up. I wouldn't touch another Adobe app with a 10ft pole so long as it requires any interaction with CC, and I know many designers in the same boat.
Sorry to hear that @ryanSrich. We built Adobe XD from the ground up, with a brand new (and fast) rendering engine. You can have hundreds of artboards with no issues whatsoever. Let us know what you think if you have a chance. Thanks, @demianborba
Latest Adobe CC apps have a plugin for browsing a media library that will (on Macs,many Way) eat up CPU like crab legs at a casino buffet. Google "CEPHtmlEngine" and the app you're using and you'll likely find the location so you can rename it, deactivating it.
Have a look at AA in Adobe XD first https://twitter.com/vmdanilov/status/712327571116056576.
that 'correct' one looks the worst.
If you are on hidpi display, zoom to 50%. Also, please don't call it the worst before looking at this version https://twitter.com/vmdanilov/status/717282519356424193.
Fwiw, since we're comparing Sketch with Adobe products, I frequently have very similar undo issues in Photoshop. Parts of the canvas get "stuck" and won't undo. I have not found a way to recover from this - it seems like the history gets permanently corrupted.

I know Sketch has frustrating bugs, but I honestly don't think they are any worse or more common than bugs in the Adobe products I use. And Adobe has had much more time and resources to fix these issues.

Maybe people are less forgiving of Sketch because it feels like a more lightweight, less complicated product, so you expect it to be bug free?

*sidenote: Kinda surprised, but not really, that the XD promo video requires Flash. I thought they went full-on HTML video.

http://imgur.com/NldV0a0

Hi @emehrkay, you can find more XD videos on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLD8AMy73ZVxXvBQcZAnOc... @demianborba
Thanks for the hint to XD, just downloading.

Will there also be a Windows version?

Hi @greenspot, oh yeah! We have a team dedicated to a Windows version to land later in the year. Performance is treated as a main feature of Adobe XD, that's why we picked the multi-platform approach, instead of cross-platform. Both Mac and Windows versions are first class citizens, taking the best of each OS. @demianborba
Ok, after a really long download and another sign-in into Adobe Cloud a very light app opens with perhaps a fraction of Sketch's features. But maybe I am just used to sketch.

Don't think they have any chance against Sketch on OSX, maybe on Windows.

It's a first beta (in the original sense, not the Google one), and it shows. It seen to be a "simple" layout app too, not a total package like Sketch can be. I think we will see a thorough integration with the other app of the Creative Cloud.
From what I understand Adobe XD is meant to work in tandem with Photoshop and Illustrator. If you don't use those two program, XD on its own is almost entirely useless (as it stand). I believe they're working to add more features directly into XD. But when I went to check it out a few weeks ago you couldn't even choose a color by hex value. Then I closed it and never opened it again since.
Actually, you can choose a color by hex value... it's just hidden because it's the Mac native color picker. (We're in the process of writing our own now, so it won't be this obnoxious in the future.) Second tab, select RGB in the drop-down.

Definitely give XD a whirl in the upcoming months, though, and please please do log what you need in adobexd.uservoice.com. We can't read minds, and we really do want to listen to what the you all need and provide an app that will meet them.

I will definitely do so and will check it out in the near future. However at the time I couldn't experiment with it in my normal workflow as I don't use Illustrator or Photoshop, so the then-missing features were a non-starter for me.
Sorry to hear that is your impression @nkrisc. You probably tested our Beta 1 (Public Preview) released in March, that is our first beta, so there is a lot to be done. We have a new preview (Public Preview 2) going out in April with a lot more features. And yes, you can expect a tight integration with Photoshop or Illustrator, it's just a matter of copying and pasting items from them to XD. You can even bring content from Sketch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyoFGyENt3g Looking forward to hearing your thoughts, and please expect a lot more features landing in our monthly releases. This is just the beginning :)
Wow, that's just a copy of sketch
To be fair Sketch is just a copy of Fireworks
To be fair, Adobe EOL'd Fireworks.
I never really understood fireworks tbh.