[derefr]

> As it stands, college for most of my friends was a 4 year social safari

And that's what costs money, insofar as it raises people's social class and gives them connections. Learning is a trivial cost in comparison, and can be ignored in the calculation; it's something you effectively get "for free" with the price of admission to the social-class-higher-than-yours practicum that is university.

Note that community colleges, which have just as much "learning" but no potential for class-raising, don't have spiralling costs. Community college costs what learning costs.

[GauntletWizard]

And yet, despite more and more people getting an education, class stratification getting worse in one of the common talking points. How do you explain that?

[derefr]

The people who are now "getting a [university] education" who previously weren't, are people already in the social upper-middle class, going to upper-middle class universities where they just end up enculturating further to the class they're already in.

People in the upper-middle class will only experience social-class mobility by going to an upper-class university (e.g. one of the Ivies, and even then only certain programs that haven't already been flooded by other upper-middle class entrants.)

Meanwhile, very few people in the lower-middle class go to university; they "get an education" by going to a trade-school or to community college, thus also avoiding enculturation. And people truly in the lower class (e.g. immigrant agricultural workers) don't even consider higher education to be an option, despite government student loan programs being aimed at them (with the explicit goal of enculturation!) more than anyone else.

Generally, though, mobility between any two classes becomes more difficult as the size-ratio between the source and destination class increases, because every place an individual could go to attempt to immerse themselves in the destination class, is already full of other people of the source class attempting the same thing. The previous mobility from lower-middle to upper-middle class has created a bulging upper-middle, which has killed the ability for people to become upper class. (Though it's easier than ever to enculturate to the upper-middle class, this being basically what happens by default when anyone with a lower-middle-class background finds themselves spending a lot of time on the internet—the internet [outside of own-class-reflecting echo chambers like Facebook] being a universally-accessible upper-middle-class microcosm.)

[ivythrowaway]

Thank you for posting this - it more or less summed up my thoughts exactly. It should also be noted, however, that these "upper-class universities" are increasingly trying to court the "lower-middle class" by offering extremely generous financial aid (usually full rides) to those who have a household income less than 60-80k/yr–though these students make up the vast minority of those in attendance, though a higher amount than upper-middle class students. The result is a sort of unofficial idea of "If you're not already in the 1%, you soon will be."

Columbia University, for example, has its current tuition at around $70k/yr, which is over 2.5 times the average American individual of $26k/yr. Columbia and its peer institutions rarely offer merit based financial awards, thus incentivizing the wealthy who can afford it and the poor who it's essentially free for, while avoiding a large part of the American middle-class altogether.

Another group of schools, besides the Ivies, that primarily serve the upper class are the prestigious small liberal arts colleges, such as Williams, Pomona, Amherst, Middlebury, etc. These are some of the smallest schools in the country, yet have the largest endowments per capita (Pomona's has the fourth largest endowment per student in the country, for example, at $1.5 million / student, which is above both Princeton and Harvard). Taken in conjunction with ~$65-70k/yr tuitions (and increasing at an average of 5% a year!), the results are institutions that cater primarily toward the upper class yet put forward the idea they server everybody by enrolling a token amount of lower class students (as many admitted students unfortunately discover they cannot afford to attend).

Source: I studied this topic at, yes, one of these very institutions. I believe the entire university system–financing especially–needs vast reform.

Harvard also released an [infographic](http://features.thecrimson.com/2015/senior-survey/) on their graduating class of 2015 "by the numbers"–notably, 2% of the nation earns $250k+/yr, but at Harvard they made up 30% of the class. That statistic is increasing, not decreasing.

[ivythrowaway]

It should also be noted that international students are generally not eligible for any financial aid whatsoever through FAFSA (and the "need-blind" admissions process available to domestic students in which these institutions cannot see your financial status in the application process is not available to international students), thus the international students that do attend these institutions are more often than not within the top socioeconomic bracket of their respective country.

[lifeisstillgood]

(This is a set of notes for future reference, not something anyone should read, ever) my apologies.

Intuitively I agree - but what struck me was what do we mean by "class"?

I can sniff some circular reasoning here.

If we say class is culture - and it's easier to hold a certain set of views (liberal market based, empirical lead?) if one is independnatly wealthy and educated in the above market/science combo.

Then upper middle class is probably the "top" of the tree.

Economic is easy - the UK aristocracy is generally marked out by independant wealth - certainly a number of titles gambled their way out of the aristocracy whereas a title is not needed to be considered upper class (see Branson etc). Perhaps a better term is "establishment"

The upper middle class perhaps is those in the 1% still who must work for income. Doctors perhaps?

I would suggest anyone who has seen their wages increase in real terms in past thirty years gets to stay middle class after that and those stagnating can be "working" class. (Quotes are sarcastic)

If I then suggest that the existence of a billionaire is a symptom of a market failure somewhere, then I am probably arguing that the "upper class" is now a fiction created by market failures - that we can and should erode it till the top of the tree is upper middle class.

For example - is a daughter of the revolution, with a Park Avenue address or two upper class? Or is Barack Obama?

I would argue that a new driver for social mobility would then be the compulsory draft - military or civilian.

[thaumasiotes]

I think the best viewpoint I've encountered on what people mean by "class" is this:

Two families are of the same social class if a marriage between them would be unsurprising. Money is a sideshow.

[kilbuz]

Fussell's 'Class' book, although dated, is a useful guide for many of these questions. And a hilarious read.

[kilbuz]

Have you written a book or research publications on this topic? I've always wanted an update to Fussell's 'Class' for the internet generations, and this post is as close to that as I've seen. If you know others who have written on the topic, please list them here. Thank you.

[robbiep]

Class stratification (social mobility) is becoming worse in the United states. This is not a global first world problem although education has been following similar trends in other first world countries (most notably the UK and Australia)