[shkkmo]

The person I was responding to was using social shaming as one of this two justifications for exclusion.

I don't appreciate your tone.

[zardgiv]

OK, so you recognize that in this case social shaming is not being used to change Moldbug's mind. If you're only talking about one of two justifications, you probably shouldn't state your case as "social shaming can only work when..."

I don't appreciate apologists for people who claim that some ethnic groups make genetically good slaves, so here we are.

[shkkmo]

> If you're only talking about one of two justifications, you probably shouldn't state your case as "social shaming can only work when..."

I don't see why not.

> I don't appreciate apologists for people who claim that some ethnic groups make genetically good slaves, so here we are.

How am I an apologist? I have defended nothing, merely clarified.

I am now done replying to you as you seem to be merely interested in picking a fight rather than having a discussion.

[zardgiv]

Usually people who aren't trying to muddy the waters and defend will make a normative statement about the underlying topic. What's your take on whether some ethnic groups are genetically good slaves?