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by stcredzero 3720 days ago
not showing a strong intolerance

So everyone needs to show the proper intolerance towards the prescribed things? I'm glad you are coming out and saying that you are engaging in what you think is righteous intolerance.

However, I think taking such a stance misses the point.
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Frondo 3720 days ago
Well, pretty much, yes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance
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thescribe 3719 days ago
This is exactly why tolerance as called for in this thread is not a virtue.

The only people I see being tolerant in any of these threads are the ones saying "I find his views disgusting but I think he should speak".

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stcredzero 3719 days ago
Doing unto others how they would have done to you, had your side not won -- how is that a virtue? That's like taking prisoners and violating the Geneva Convention, because they would have behaved that way to you. Unfortunately, this is the kind of nation the United States has become. (Really, nations, plural, because we've forgotten how to be a loyal opposition and hang together.)

Everyone thinks their side is just. The lesson of history is that one can recognize the truly just and enlightened through their magnanimity. Those who did wrong should be punished. Sure, but going around bullying those who thought wrong? There's something really shortsighted and twisted about that. How isn't that simply McCarthyism through legal socially-enforced means?

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thescribe 3719 days ago
>Doing unto others how they would have done to you, had your side not won

This is such an elegant and concise summary.

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stcredzero 3719 days ago
Otherwise known as an eye for an eye, making the whole world blind.
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mcphage 3719 days ago
Well, if he can't tolerate you either, then you'll both be fully tolerant!
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st3v3r 3719 days ago
Why should I be tolerant of people who clearly are not tolerant of others? I mean, we're not talking about some benign disagreement, like whether you like PHP or Ruby. We're talking about someone who has flat out said that slavery should return, and certain classes of people are not deserving of basic human dignity.

I'm sorry, but I see nothing wrong with not being tolerant of those views. Tolerating them sends the message that they are acceptable views that have merit.

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