[Laaw]

What blows my mind is that someone like you can see a sample size of one (you), pull like 15 different levers, and then proceed to "know" which of the levers actually worked, and which levers would work for everyone else.

The sophilistic nature of your comment is astounding.

[donutdan4114]

I wasn't really implying that everyone should start a ketogenic diet. Just stating the success that I've had with it, and also noting several common misconceptions that are still largely heard today.

[Laaw]

I didn't say you were implying anything, what I said was I find it astounding how little actual data you seem to have collected, compared to the sweeping conclusions you're drawing.

I take issue with your condescending tone, because it doesn't fit whatsoever with your clear ignorance on the topic. I'm particularly sensitive to the topic of food, because people in your situation (who have found success but have no idea why) are immensely harmful to nutrition education.

Comments like yours are precisely why there are so many misconceptions out there.

[donutdan4114]

I mean, it's just a comment on HN, I'm not writing a scientific journal article.

Everything I stated in the original comment is information I have gathered and learned about over the years. Most people haven't read any books about nutrition and how the body works, where I have done a lot of independent research. So I probably know a little bit more about this stuff than the average person. I'm not saying I'm an expert by any stretch, but I'm sure a lot of people on HN could find this information useful, and a good starting point for their own independent research.

And no, I can't site the sources directly, but if you have any specific points you'd like to point as being "errors", feel free to do so, as I'm sure others would be interested.

Like any internet forum, you can always put your opinion in. However you have seemed to only attack my comment, rather than providing any real retort.

[Laaw]

Here are the reasons why I don't believe you should have written your comment:

* You falsely (implicitly) assert expertise on a topic (nutrition) to which you've had no actual training.

* You believe "just a comment on HN" doesn't deserve your full effort.

* You elevate yourself above the level of an ambiguous group of "others", without any evidence or actual reason for doing so.

* Your actual content comes without any citation or reasoning. You expect others to simply "take your word for it", or worse, do their own research, which you've given zero helpful information to help guide, other than random statements about nutrition.

* You overvalue your personal experience, while simultaneously undervaluing the research/experience/knowledge of others.

My contribution to this discussion is to point out to others your distinct lack of actual knowledge, despite your insistence on passing yourself off as an "expert"-- no, sorry, you said you're not an expert, just a guy who's "done a lot of independent research" (whatever that means).

I realize this comes off as harsh, but please realize, I don't know you, and am not making a value judgement of you as a person, just on what you've written here in the last hour or so. I'd bet you're not like this all the time, this just wasn't a very well thought out conversation.

[forgetsusername]

>I take issue with your condescending tone, because it doesn't fit whatsoever with your clear ignorance on the topic.

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

>are immensely harmful to nutrition education.

Why don't you bestow us with that education, instead telling everyone how dangerous their opinions are?

[Laaw]

I explain in greater detail the problems with the original comment in another comment, if you're interested in something more than verbal sniping.

It's simply not true that I must be able to provide the correct answer in order to identify and critique an incorrect answer.

[tim333]

Ya know "sophilistic nature of your comment is astounding", "astounding how little actual data", "your clear ignorance" isn't very HN guidelines. Bit unfair too - after all it's the top comment on this thread.

[Laaw]

I elaborate somewhat on each of those statements in another comment. Criticism of false "expert" advice is critically important for HN.