[ultramancool]

> anti-anti-ad-blocker measures just as they came up with anti-ad-blocker measures in the first place.

To be fair, the current anti-anti-adblockers like anti-adblock killer could defeat such a measure as is. Short of rendering their page to an image with ads builtin, there's not much you can do if someone's willing to replace JS.

What do you have against a good old fashioned cat and mouse game?

[kbenson]

It's a waste of time and resources, and as long as one side persists in thinking that they can work around ad-blockers, and the other thinks it is justified in ignoring clear terms of use, then we won't ever get a solution that works better.

As it is right now, we are disincentivizing people from participating in a system that actually has a chance of surviving. Without compensation in some form, higher-tier journalism can't survive, and I for one don't think a world where all news comes from amateur bloggers is a better one.

[ultramancool]

I'm not so idealistic as to think I can change the model. I just want the content in a way that's acceptable to me so I can consume it now. It's not a waste of time if I save more time not looking at ads, not loading ads and have to remove less malware infections from my friends and family's computers. Not a waste of time at all!

The only way the model is going to change is if everyone adopts ad blockers and anti-anti solutions. And that's not going to happen. So I've got to deal with what we realistically have until someone comes up with this mythical better model and makes it work.

I can't change the model, but I can change what my computer does about it.

[kbenson]

That's a realistic position, and I can't fault you for that. I was responding mostly to "What do you have against a good old fashioned cat and mouse game?" I don't like where we are going, but I don't necessarily see a way to exert enough force to stop it, nor know what stopping it would result in. I don't think we'll actually end up with paid content going away, but it sure would be nice if we could skip a few years of bullshit half-solutions and fast-track something that works, whatever that ends up being. :/