[pil4rin]

Maintaining a reduced calorie diet seems to be the issue, most people cannot do this.

[sirtastic]

Wrong. I maintained ~1200 calorie life style for several extended periods after losing my initial weight in an effort to get rid of the last 10sh lbs of fat with no success. If its simply calories in vs out then I would have succeeded several times over. It's not simply in vs out in some cases which is what I'm trying to point out and what Goronmon has failed to understand.

[Goronmon]

It's not simply in vs out in some cases which is what I'm trying to point out and what Goronmon has failed to understand.

You'll never find a diet/exercise/plan that allows one to achieve indefinite weight lose.

[sirtastic]

Funny as that happens to be exactly what I'm arguing. "it's not as simple as cal in vs out."