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by rwjwjuwjudf 3732 days ago
What you said makes sense right up until the last bit about the lazy plants generating low energy in humans. There is no science to substantiate that, like none at all.

I think it's more likely that we're living in a system that seeks unwittingly to extract the most value, hence the lazy plants and the lazy people. Lazy plants is obvious, but why are lazy people more valuable? Because they are perfect office drones, and that's what you need to keep the system running, or growing even. Not healthy people that wouldn't tolerate sitting at a desk for 8 hours a day.

So, reasonable thinking, just skip the pseudo/non-science stuff because it just gets in the way. My take on your idea is just speculation and conjecture that isn't wrong prima facie, and is also unfalsifiable.

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> There is no science to substantiate that, like none at all.

Of course there is none, that's why I prefixed that with "here's a crazy theory of mine".

How can we explore new ideas if we're going to stay within the bounds of what science can substantiate ?

I think brainstorming, throwing random ideas around, even stupid or absurd ones is very useful.

We have no problem listening to songs or poetry or enjoying art that doesn't make sense .. not because we get valid information out of it, but because they trigger thought processes inside us which can later lead to useful insights...

Sometimes even totally absurd ideas can lead you in the right direction.

But anyway, the "lazy" plants thing..

The idea that there is a "life force" that can be transmitted from one animal/plant to another is as old as humans. People have eaten hearts of animals, drank their blood, sought and consumed power giving plants since forever.

But does such a thing even exist ? What is this "life force" ?

Is it what the Chinese call "chi", or the Japanese call "ki" or the Indians call "prana" or the ancient greek stoics called "pneuma" or the Hebrews call "ruach"... ?

It's that thing which differentiates a living cell from a cell that's just died - structurally and biochemically they are almost identical - yet in one of them all the processes have stopped and disintegration into basic molecules has begun.

It's something that living beings (plants) extract from sunlight and then send over the conveyor belt we call "the food chain", to be transformed, stored and used for physical movement, observation and even thought.

It's not just "calories", there is a certain strength - desire to live and procreate - inherent in any living being which is different from the total amount of energy released during oxidation - which we call "calories".

It's dangerous for a scientist to explore this area because it's bounding this "spirituality" thing which is just not good, because science is against anything with soul and stuff.. But maybe that's just dogma and it stops us from seeing more of reality.

So I don't think it's totally absurd to look into these ancient concepts with fresh eyes and not fear the ridicule.

Edit: Sorry, got carried away ... I've got code to ship !

Well, you could do a double-blind test where you feed pureed lazy plants and pureed healthy plants to your test subjects and see if you can detect a difference.

But honestly just the metaphor of humans being like lazy plants is already deep enough, it's already a window into the human soul, you don't need a literal connection.