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"I enjoy programming in Haskell, but it's hard for employers to locate good Haskell programmers and so there is some extra hiring risk if you agree to bring Haskell into your family of tools."

@p4wnc6 what are you using Haskell for?

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The only job experience I have with Haskell was in education technology, and part of that was focused on prototyping some things with Elm and PureScript for some boring business web tooling.

What I like working on in Haskell is numerical linear algebra / machine learning / data analytics toolkits.

But I also know Python pretty well (much more experience than with Haskell) and Python has the advantage of actually having a decent-paying job market, so I mostly stick to that. The few times I've interviewed for possibly decent-paying Haskell roles, they have been with large banks whose tech dysfunction was so large that it destroyed any credibility that may have been assumed due to the usage of Haskell.

One of the most eye opening things in my working experience has been that when someone says they use "functional programming" in a business setting, it generally means they don't follow any of the established practices or ideas that make functional programming worthwhile in the first place. So for jobs, seeking functional programming perhaps makes me overly skeptical.

I have heard of a few start-ups that really do functional programming, and one or two even using Haskell. But the pay and work environment are just too poor to consider it.

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"The only job experience I have with Haskell was in education technology, and part of that was focused on prototyping some things with Elm and PureScript for some boring business web tooling."

Elm is written in Haskell, and you can only build the latest Elm with a late Haskell install. Found this out the hard way trying to install Elm on debian/Raspberrypi. [0]

I ask, because I'm curious to see what applications haskell are used for. I see Haskell being used, but limited to specific roles. [1] One thing I have noticed is Haskell to build you require a low level tool chain, like C. HS also is a moving target. Latest development should be via Stack yet a lot of documentation and code relies on Cabal. This is a pain installing some things.

All I want to use Haskell is for building a new language. I could use the "C tool chain" and I will do this if I can't grok Haskell. But to tell you the truth the learning hump and pain is worth the advantages of the advanced compiler, types and the clean code.

Builds and implementation is a hurdle I'm looking at.

[0] Unless you cross-compile or re-compile Haskell which is a PIA.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haskell_%28programming_languag...

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elm-flasked (elm front-end, python-flask backend) popped up in the NoRedInk repo this week, take a look ~ https://github.com/NoRedInk/elm-flasked