[webjprgm]

Democracy is a form of government that can destroy itself. The French voted to put in an emperor their first time around. So we may have a good constitution but if the people vote to make bad laws that break it, and permit those laws to function, then it is the people's fault, not the founder's fault.

[kazagistar]

I mean, the binary choice clusterfuck that is modern politics is certainly the fault of the founders, and is certainly partially responsible for the current problems. And because of the reverence of the founders and the constitution as it exists, the self destruction and rebirth is looking likelier then meaningfully repairing the system.

[tajen]

Tomorrow we'll have infinite disdain for binary-party democracies, just like we currently have for monoparty democracies.

It baffles me that people still immigrate to Singapore. What a total disrespect for a thousand years fighting for the right to vote.

[SixSigma]

I guess it's not so bad if you can leave when you feel like it. Singapore is a cool place if you're on the right side.

Dubai is another even more extreme example.