[coldtea]

>I appreciate that you have your own preference on this matter, but do you really think that most people don't like notifications? Most people want them.

A source for that?

What's a fact is that all people didn't had them for the first 15+ years of the web, and I've never heard people complaining about that lack -- whereas people always asked for faster loading websites, less popups, no auto-play for sound and videos, ability to turn off ads, etc.

[esailija]

Notifications are necessary for many applications, they are not for traditional websites although sadly that doesn't stop them from requesting permission. Imo the notification feature really should require at least https, like many other intended-for-applications browser features like service worker and location. On mobile you could replace most native apps (twitter, facebook, mail etc) with a web app if they supported notifications and save gigabytes of space for stuff that actually needs to be native.

[oh_sigh]

People didn't have a lot of stuff for X+ years of the web. I'm not really sure how that is an argument for or against something.

None of the desires you list are associated with notifications.