[sergers]

"Extreme analogy, I know, but reminds me of Holocaust denialism. Some people are just determined to see past all available evidence to focus on one outcome which suits their personal biases."

-very extreme analogy to the say the least, seems someone else here has a strong personal bias to use a crazy analogy.

its great that you believe in a company strongly, but to downright shoot down any other possibility is bias.

personally not ordering model 3 as: -dont want to be driving first iteration

-contrary to your comment, alot can happen in 2 years.

-i dont think they can meet demand, probably 2-3 years realistic

-i will likely be in a comfortable spot (hope) to afford Model S by end of 2017

-too much unknowns for Model 3

[aerovistae]

A lot can happen in 2 years indeed. Can't wait to see what Tesla and SpaceX have accomplished by then. It's going to be nuts.

I am indeed biased: I focus on available evidence. That's my bias. And all available evidence screams that Elon Musk's companies succeed at the things they set out to accomplish.

[cmurf]

I guess it depends on how you define success. Certainly it includes the word, eventually, because it's not ever happening on the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd expected by date. The analysts do tend to be conservative but they're also advising on a lot more than $1000 buy-ins, so a lot of their hesitation is completely legitimate "show me the goods". Investing isn't exactly like gambling on chance you know?