[adam419]

But whose job is that to decide? The arbiters of fairness and marginal utility?

The issue with fairness is that it's impossible to arrive at a definition of fairness without it inevitably just serving the interest of whomever defined it.

[dllthomas]

"But whose job is that to decide? The arbiters of fairness and marginal utility?"

There are a variety of answers to that question, of varying quality.

But take a step back. Do you realize you're responding with a statement that determining fairness is impossible... to an objection to your own attempt to assert something was fair?

[adam419]

Yeah I do, but I'm mostly meaning to point out the epistemological issues with conversations around fairness and to state that to me, proportionatity is the only thing that most resembles fairness