[kbenson]

> But again I say produce a victim or there is no crime.

To all laws are criminal, and not all crimes have a singular, discrete victim. Laws are also used as disincentives.

> CF is a crime.

CF is used in a lot more instances than the simplistic example you are putting forth. For example, CF is what is used to justify seizure of contraband at the border (imagine a shipping container full of guns with no known owner). Grouping all usages under a simplistic, unrealistic reading of the law doesn't lead anywhere useful.

[justinclift]

> "imagine a shipping container full of guns with no known owner"

Assume CIA? :D