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by fl0wenol 3738 days ago
They're canceling it _because_ it was successful.

The issue is that by using virtual Master Cards they have to pay part of the interchange fee to Citi (or was it Bancorp?). Not only that, but if you were backing it by a credit card, then they ate the 2% fee that they get charged in the backend when hitting your real credit card.

Plus the fact that they were essentially issuing you and everyone else short term credit when you made a purchase and that every transaction was Card Not Present no matter what (even if you swiped the "real" google wallet card, which was fun to do) ... yeah.

It was never going to stick around unless you got charged for usage, at which point it's not so attractive.

The pressure in the industry is to move to the secure-element/token based system anyway, i.e. Samsung/Android/Apple pay.

If you want to do funky stuff in the backend to abstract your purchases into one place then Simple or something like that is for you.

What I'm worried about is what's going to happen with the send-money feature of Google Wallet, which was attractive for short-term keeping track of who owes who what without Paypal fees.

I'm hoping they bring that back and somehow link it into Android Pay, even if there's some kind of fee coming or going for when you actually "collect". (Keeping it otherwise liquid and fee-free when you're just moving numbers around between accounts inside the system).

crosses fingers

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Google Wallet will still be used to send money between Google users. In fact, that appears to be its only function going forward.

Money will be taken directly from the sender's debit card or checking account, and the recipient can deposit it in their checking account. The only features going away are the physical Wallet card and the ability to add to your Wallet balance.

According to /u/GraemeStanding, who appears to work on Android Pay (which is basically the old NFC payment portion of Google Wallet, split off and rebranded): https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/4crogp/just_got_an...

Unfortunately this is still a step back because the whole upside to Google Wallet was that you could "carry" the Wallet balance and use it as no-fee settlement between acquaintances, or turn around and pay for Google services with small amounts not worth withdrawing.

I mean if you can do ACH (i.e debit cards) with both parties and avoid fees then that's convenient in that you don't have to exchange checking account numbers or something outrageous (just email addresses), but that still could take an indeterminate amount of time to settle. Next day? A week?

But with the wallet balance you could hold transfers I got from other people or put money in ahead of time from my bank and then when I need it, the other party knows they got it on their phone.

There is no backing credit card with Google Wallet Card. The card is debit card for the balance in Google Wallet. The Google Wallet balance could be transferred from bank accounts or debit card, or from credit cards with fee.

The confusion is that Google Wallet app did both the Wallet transfers and NFC payments. Before Android Pay, the NFC payments used virtual credit cards.

The send money functionality for Google Wallet still exists. It is now the only purpose of the separate Wallet app.