[robzyb]

> I do think the kitchen sink should be included by default, even for experimental stuff. Optimisation and minimisation should be the expert case.

A common theme in the counter-argument is that developers should be aiming to get Babel to some "ideal state" which is neither zero-config or full-config.

I'm not ES/Babel expert, but I think that's a reasonable point.

HOWEVER, I strongly feel that it is easier to get to this "ideal state" if you start with a most-uses-cases config. It's always easier to optimise from something that works, instead of trying to optimise from a broken state in the way that Babel now ships.